Why now? What drew you to collaborate with each other at this particular moment?
Nicholas Daley: Me and Kopi have been good friends since studying together at Central Saint Martins over 10 years ago. Daiki Suzuki, founder of Engineered Garments, invited us to host our pop-up shops at the Nepenthes NY store together, and it felt like the perfect opportunity to collaborate on some key products that reflect our design approaches, our cultures, and our shared appreciation of craft.
Kozaburo: As independent menswear designers, our shared background and brand trajectory have put us in contact many times, but this was the first time we’ve been able to collaborate on a project.
Fashion often frames designers as competitors – how does working together change that dynamic for you?
Nicholas: I’m still constantly learning about different techniques, processes, and craftsmanship. Kozaburo brings such unique fabrications and methods into his work, and it was inspiring to share ideas and learn from each other.
Kozaburo: Nicholas and I share many interests, one being karate. In martial arts, competition is rooted in exchanging techniques and learning from your interaction with one another, as opposed to a ‘winner takes all’ approach. That philosophy of exchange drove this project, allowing our design languages to synthesise into something stronger together.
On a nuts-and-bolts level, how did you actually work together?
Nicholas: We shared sketches, jumped on video calls, and exchanged images that resonated with both of us. But my favourite part was vintage shopping together in New York – we spent hours going through old baseball caps, bouncing ideas off each other, and just enjoying doing something we both love.
Kozaburo: There were certainly some late-night calls, but the highlight was getting together in person to thrift materials for our collaborative caps and discuss our mutual interests and design philosophies.